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			<p class="author"><a href="./viewtopic.php?p=29142&amp;sid=bf64eb85f622bacc78916fb95146813a#p29142"><img src="./styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Postitus" title="Postitus" /></a>Postitas <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1270&amp;sid=bf64eb85f622bacc78916fb95146813a">Plant</a></strong> &raquo; 11 Dets 2010, 05:14 </p>

			

			<div class="content">Ka mulle tundub vrg tsitaat loogilisem, kuigi olemata bioloog ja tundmata inimliigi kujunemislugu, ei julge ka ühtegi esimese tsitaadi väidet ümber lükata. <br />Mis selle teema juures minu jaoks kõige olulisem on, on see, et taimetoitlased, siis, kui nad üritavad ennast või teisi oma toitumisvalikute õiguses veenda, kasutavad teinekord just sedasorti argumente: „Inimene on evolutsiooniliselt taimetoiduline, taimed on meie loomulik toit ja loomad ei ole.“ Aga on ju üsna selge, et sellistena, nagu me praegu oleme, saame me väga hästi hakkama ka loomsete toiduainete läbilaskmisega oma seedesüsteemist ning mitmeid toitained omastame loomsetest toiduainetest pareminigi. Nii et selliste argumentidega on väga raske kedagi (ka iseennast) veenda, küll aga lihtne enda ja teiste vahele kiilu lüüa.<br />Pole oluline, mida või keda meie kauged eellased sõid, oluline on see, et siin ja praegu on paljud inimesed teinud vabatahtliku otsuse muuta oma harjumusi selliselt, et vähendada teiste olendite kannatusi. Kõige olulisemaks omaduseks (toitumisharjumuste ja muu pudi-padi kõrval), mis eristab inimliiki loomadest, on see, et <span style="font-style: italic">we have a choice</span>.</div>

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			<p class="author"><a href="./viewtopic.php?p=29383&amp;sid=bf64eb85f622bacc78916fb95146813a#p29383"><img src="./styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Postitus" title="Postitus" /></a>Postitas <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=431&amp;sid=bf64eb85f622bacc78916fb95146813a">Beautiful</a></strong> &raquo; 01 Jaan 2011, 16:46 </p>

			

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			<p class="author"><a href="./viewtopic.php?p=29384&amp;sid=bf64eb85f622bacc78916fb95146813a#p29384"><img src="./styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Postitus" title="Postitus" /></a>Postitas <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=431&amp;sid=bf64eb85f622bacc78916fb95146813a">Beautiful</a></strong> &raquo; 01 Jaan 2011, 17:03 </p>

			

			<div class="content">Osad inimesed arvestavad väga teadlaste jms teadusega, pidades kõike puhtaks tõeks. Samas arvestamata seda, et lääne kultuuri teadus on üks nooremaid harusid maailmas. Eraldi teadusvaldkondadesse süvenemata, üldistades, et siis kui teadlased on suutelised teadma ja uurima kogu universumist ainult 0,1% tema olemusest ja ülejäänu jätavad kõrvale kui musta massi (ainuüksi sellepärast et pole võimalik uurida). Siis mis vahe on kohvipaksu pealt ennustamisel ja teadusel? <img src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /> Eeldan et kohvi paksu pealt ennustajal on vähemalt intuitsioon.<br />Sellega tahan ma öelda, et kui ma teaksin lennuki juhtimisest ainult 0,1%, kuivõrd keegi terve mõistusega inimene usaldaks minu kui piloodiga lendama minna? <img src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /></div>

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